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May 19, 2021
General Public Comments
ZMA-8-20 Forestville Village Planned Unit Development Public Comment
Please know that I am opposed to the rezoning proposal for Forestville Road. I am writing to you today, and within the 24 hour period following yesterday's public hearing to submit my comments and objections arising from that meeting. Please make this email an official part of the public hearing record. As such, ensure that it is made available to the Mayor, the Town Council and all internal Staff Personnel with responsibility to account and to respond to it as an official submission. As I have given a large amount of feedback, I have sectioned it in the hopes that it will be easier to read, understand and digest.
If the Town is going to deviate from the 2035 Comprehensive Plan and use this location as a Mixed-Density Neighborhood instead of a Neighborhood Node, then the housing density should be compatible with the surrounding subdivisions with a maximum of 4 dwelling units per acre.
Surrounding neighborhoods, specifically those directly across from this new neighborhood are significantly less dense than the proposed development. This drastic change in density is unacceptable and incompatible with the concept of a neighborhood node. The proposal as it stands on 4/21/2021, is not a neighborhood node as mandated by the Comprehensive plan. The proposal is "medium" density housing and a fire station. No justification has been offered as to why the Comprehensive Plan is to be set aside for this development. No explanation has been given as to what has changed so drastically in the last 2 years that justifies throwing away the neighborhood node in this location?
The number of trips generated by the proposed development was misstated on several occasions. The Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA) estimates the development will generate approximately 5,570 vehicles per day. The TIA states that some of the improvements discussed are for the Town’s information only and are not part of the developer’s plan. The TIA also states that some of the improvements are not warranted or feasible, such as a roundabout at Forestville Rd and Old Knight Rd. Please read the TIA. The actual findings have not been fully disclosed by the Development Services Department. (See ‘WHO PRESENTS WHAT AND HOW’ – Second bullet point below)From page 16 of the Development Staff report, IX. TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS: 'The TIA was reviewed by Town Staff and the Town’s consulting engineer AMT and it meets all Town standards for level of service at all intersections, with the exception most of the site driveways serving the proposed development'. Unless the Town standard allows a LOS of ‘F’ for Town intersections, then this statement is false and misleading to the Town Council. Please follow up with Chris Hills for the full details. Or simply look at the opposition presentation that is now part of the public record. Strengthening the above point, The existing Traffic Impact Analysis conclusions specifically state all but 2 intersections will not operate at acceptable Level of Service (LOS) even with recommended improvements. This development will bring unacceptable traffic to the two-lane roads surrounding it. The current ‘cut through traffic’ issue was not addressed at the meeting and there appears to be no plan to mitigate it. The reason there is no plan to address it is because it is simply impossible to do. You can’t build this proposal on the property in question without allowing cut through traffic to worsen. That alone should be enough cause to reject the rezoning for Forestville Village. Further to the point above, there is already significant cut-through traffic in Magnolia Place and Edenburgh's Keep from Forestville Road Elementary School (and Lockhart Elementary on the other side). An entrance off Lawson Ridge Road will encourage more cut-through traffic. Further to the point above, there is already significant cut-through traffic in Beaver Dam from Knightdale High School. An entrance off Lawson Ridge Road would encourage more cut-through traffic. The existing Traffic Impact Analysis and proposed traffic study made no mention of the new soccer park which has just opened and will further burden the two-lane roads in question. Allen Park is now approved. It will increase the traffic on the two-lane roads in question, and the current traffic impact analysis and proposed studies do not control for this impact. The capacity of the roads is already set to be impacted dramatically with both Allen Park and the soccer complex developments. The roads in question are State Roads and as such making the necessary improvements needed to support all of the above uses is out of control by the Town government. No improvements are planned or budgeted between now and 2035. It is unwise to create a nightmare traffic situation for Knightdale residents. Elected officials are the watchdogs who should detect and reject proposals that do harm like this one will.
Parking on a state-maintained road such as Forestville Road is prohibited by NC General Statute 20-161 (a1). Since it is not legal, then no consideration should be given to the idea that it might be used to solve parking issues or somehow mitigate traffic flow or congestion.
PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE UDO STANDARDS:
The applicant is being given too many exemptions from the UDO standards that make Knightdale communities attractive and functional. I know from page 14 of the Development Staff report, 'In accordance with UDO Section 15.C.5, Planned Unit Development rezonings allow the applicant to request exceptions to certain standards identified in the NMX zoning district.' Just because the applicant make a request to lower our standards, does not mean we should grant them. If an applicant can’t or won’t meet our standards for quality communities, then we should not reward them with opportunities to make developments in Knightdale. I know this sounds awfully obvious and simple, but please don’t lower standards. From page 14 of the Development Staff report, A. Driveway Length (Section 2.10.B.2): Required: In accordance with UDO Section 2.10.B.2, driveways for single-family homes shall be a minimum of 35-feet in length. Requested: The applicant is requesting to reduce the minimum driveway length for single-family homes to 20-feet from the edge of the right-of-way. This is a very bad idea. We see this problem in Knightdale all the time! This forces residents to park cars across the sidewalks. Which in turn forces children and walkers into the street. This is a huge safety issue. The fix is to lower the dwelling density to the point where proper parking can be constructed. From page 14-15 of the Development Staff report, B. Street Cross Sections (Sec 17.3): • Required: Uniform street cross sections are required to ensure adequate space for vehicular movements and uniformity throughout Knightdale. Generally, local streets feature a 54-foot-wide right-of way with a minimum of 27-feet of pavement. This is another case demonstrating that this proposal is too dense. We should not lower our standards of 'Street Cross Sections’. It will only constrain proper traffic movement within the development. This problem is stemming from the on-street parking within the development. Another objection I have.
It was made clear in the Public Hearing that approval of this proposal will mean a fire station being constructed at the corner of Forestville Road and Old Knight Road. I object to this idea in the first place because Knightdale does not need to spend money to have two fire stations within 2 miles of each other. Further, rejecting the applicants proposal will likely result in construction on the Town's existing land off Lawson Ridge Road. Again, I don’t see the need for that either.
The recommendation of a traffic circle at the corner of Forestville Road and Old Knight Road where a fire station is supposed to be built seems unusual and inappropriate. It is unclear how a traffic circle at the driveway to a fire station can properly function. It seems like this poses a serious threat to the safety and lives of motorists. Further to the above point, how large would that traffic circle need to be to accommodate fire trucks and rescue vehicles. These vehicles have large dimensions and clearances. They will require a very large traffic circle. Further to the above point, whose property will need to be taken over and whose property value will be damaged by this piece of roadway infrastructure. Again, this is where citizens have a reasonable expectation that the Council will protect our interests. Have you considered the impact on Poole's Funeral Home? This is a very important business that provides very needed services to our community. I recommend that you do not damage or make them dysfunctional. Further to the above point, the best mitigation for the problems in this section, is to reject the applicants proposal. FALSE ASSUMPTION ABOUT A WALK-ABLE KNIGHTDALE The assumption that existing residents will simply walk across 64 to access existing retail and consider these options as a substitute for a “neighborhood node” is false. Residents do not currently walk or bike across 64 to access retail. It simply is too far and too dangerous despite the Town’s efforts to date to mitigate the risks. A true neighborhood node on this parcel of land would include pedestrian and bicycle access and would be easily accessible by 14% of Knightdale’s residents who live nearby.
GREATER NEED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD NODE CREATED
I was not in favor of approving Allen Park mostly on the basis of the burden it puts on our little two-lane roads. Now that decision is taken, the approval of Allen Park PUD on 4/21/2021, removes 1 of the 5 neighborhood nodes set aside by the Comprehensive Plan. Allen Park brings more homes, lower density housing, and higher quality homes. The approval of Allen Park negates the need for any additional housing in the proposed location (that is higher density and lower volume) and intensifies the need for a neighborhood node north of 64 for all residents in northern Knightdale.
The multitude of missing elements and the lack of information regarding the missing elements of this proposal make me recommend rejection of the proposal. We should not approve a half-baked development. If we rubber stamp this now, then we will be out of control from the first moment of this project. Would I admit my child to a hospital with permission to do whatever is needed to make her right? Of course not! As the responsible party, I’d need to know up front what will be done – exactly what will be done. And until I had proper assurances that the hospital and surgeons had the necessary credentials and experience to provide the care, I’d walk away. I’d look for another team to help me. I recommend that Council members do not trust our future to vague promises, generalities and assumptions about the integrity of the development proposers. haven't we been tricked before? Make the applicant provide proper assurances or walk away. I recommend we walk away. Further to the above point, I cite ‘No builder named' and no assurances the eventual builder will deliver on anything the applicant has claimed. Further to the above point, I cite, ‘No plan for the commercial acreage’. Further to the above point, I cite, ‘No plan or concern for road improvements before 2035’. Further to the above point, I cite, ‘No plan or concern for impact on our schools.’ Further to the above point, I cite, No commitment to ban on-street parking for Forestville Road’. Further to the above point, I cite, ‘Nothing in the proposal that will do anything to control cut through traffic’ in six of our neighborhoods. There are just too many unknowns and lose ends to approve this proposal. I recommend rejection.
The residents. It shows a blatant disregard for the well being of the population of the town and could be perceived as discriminatory in nature since it would pose an undue hardship and inconvenience on a specific group of people both already residing and those to come. This is not an upgrade in the least. But moreso the making of a project. Which is not right. The types of dwellings being created also suggests a draw for lower earning families and appears systemic in nature. Purpose by design. I am highly opposed to this ridiculous proposal.
April 21, 2021
General Public Comments